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Democratic complicity and what "politicizing justice" really means
'Action Memo' For Obama: Recommendations For Dealing With Torture
Reclaiming America’s Soul
The long and short is that we need a bipartisan, independent investigation and prosecution under US law for those whose authorized torture in the so-called "War on Terror", and in Iraq, Afghanistan, Guantanamo Bay and "Extraordinary Rendition". When the facts have been found, the people who authorized it, supervised it, and claimed it to be legal must be charged, period. Even if that includes half of Congress from both sides of the aisle, and current cabinet members.
Seriously, no matter how people tried to spin it, that shit is illegal, both under US and International law. Hanging a few underlings out to dry for "excesses' won't cut it. Someone authorized it, someone got the reports and knew how they were obtained. The big guys, Republican *or* Democrat, I'm not picky who, need to be found, charged, and tried in a court of law.
So sorry, Mr President, no just saying "Oh, here's a few memos." - We want to know the full extent of the wrongdoing in our name! We want the violators prosecuted!
We ca not allow torturers and their bosses to go unpunished. Not In Our Name.
Full and open investigation, or you just bought yourself into it. Silence and inaction is assent.
'Action Memo' For Obama: Recommendations For Dealing With Torture
Reclaiming America’s Soul
The long and short is that we need a bipartisan, independent investigation and prosecution under US law for those whose authorized torture in the so-called "War on Terror", and in Iraq, Afghanistan, Guantanamo Bay and "Extraordinary Rendition". When the facts have been found, the people who authorized it, supervised it, and claimed it to be legal must be charged, period. Even if that includes half of Congress from both sides of the aisle, and current cabinet members.
Seriously, no matter how people tried to spin it, that shit is illegal, both under US and International law. Hanging a few underlings out to dry for "excesses' won't cut it. Someone authorized it, someone got the reports and knew how they were obtained. The big guys, Republican *or* Democrat, I'm not picky who, need to be found, charged, and tried in a court of law.
So sorry, Mr President, no just saying "Oh, here's a few memos." - We want to know the full extent of the wrongdoing in our name! We want the violators prosecuted!
We ca not allow torturers and their bosses to go unpunished. Not In Our Name.
Full and open investigation, or you just bought yourself into it. Silence and inaction is assent.
Democratic complicity and what "politicizing justice" really means
'Action Memo' For Obama: Recommendations For Dealing With Torture
Reclaiming America’s Soul
The long and short is that we need a bipartisan, independent investigation and prosecution under US law for those whose authorized torture in the so-called "War on Terror", and in Iraq, Afghanistan, Guantanamo Bay and "Extraordinary Rendition". When the facts have been found, the people who authorized it, supervised it, and claimed it to be legal must be charged, period. Even if that includes half of Congress from both sides of the aisle, and current cabinet members.
Seriously, no matter how people tried to spin it, that shit is illegal, both under US and International law. Hanging a few underlings out to dry for "excesses' won't cut it. Someone authorized it, someone got the reports and knew how they were obtained. The big guys, Republican *or* Democrat, I'm not picky who, need to be found, charged, and tried in a court of law.
So sorry, Mr President, no just saying "Oh, here's a few memos." - We want to know the full extent of the wrongdoing in our name! We want the violators prosecuted!
We ca not allow torturers and their bosses to go unpunished. Not In Our Name.
Full and open investigation, or you just bought yourself into it. Silence and inaction is assent.
'Action Memo' For Obama: Recommendations For Dealing With Torture
Reclaiming America’s Soul
The long and short is that we need a bipartisan, independent investigation and prosecution under US law for those whose authorized torture in the so-called "War on Terror", and in Iraq, Afghanistan, Guantanamo Bay and "Extraordinary Rendition". When the facts have been found, the people who authorized it, supervised it, and claimed it to be legal must be charged, period. Even if that includes half of Congress from both sides of the aisle, and current cabinet members.
Seriously, no matter how people tried to spin it, that shit is illegal, both under US and International law. Hanging a few underlings out to dry for "excesses' won't cut it. Someone authorized it, someone got the reports and knew how they were obtained. The big guys, Republican *or* Democrat, I'm not picky who, need to be found, charged, and tried in a court of law.
So sorry, Mr President, no just saying "Oh, here's a few memos." - We want to know the full extent of the wrongdoing in our name! We want the violators prosecuted!
We ca not allow torturers and their bosses to go unpunished. Not In Our Name.
Full and open investigation, or you just bought yourself into it. Silence and inaction is assent.
Hello, "conservatives" and red state voters. I have some things for you to think about, even while you are still aglow with Congress' success at abrogating the Geneva Convention and the 6th, 7th and 8th Amendments.
The executive branch of our government, with the connivance (or cowardice) of Congress, has accreted to itself more and more surveillance, domestic intelligence gathering, warrentless arrest and detention, secret trial and even "mild" torture powers. The Patriot Act was only the start, and I'm sure that the Military Commissions Act will not be the last of the power granting.
I have to ask anyone who supports these type of measures to do this simple exercise:
Are you still so sure that you want to give the "government" (current and future) the authority to use these tools?
You see, you haven't just handed the good ol' boys of the Bush administration these powers, you are handing the government, in perpetuity, these powers - regardless of who is running it. If, and when, you lose your predominance, the people who you hate, and that hate you, will have the tools to make your (and your decendents) lives miserable - and you gave them to them with a cheer and a "damn straight".
Doesn't that make you feel brilliant?
Let's undo it, while there is still time for all of us to be free. Until then, you had best be sure that all of your papers are in order.
EDIT: You could end up reading stuff like this in a few years: President Clinton Jails 938,000 Illegal Enemy Combatants Isn't that what Congress has granted?
The executive branch of our government, with the connivance (or cowardice) of Congress, has accreted to itself more and more surveillance, domestic intelligence gathering, warrentless arrest and detention, secret trial and even "mild" torture powers. The Patriot Act was only the start, and I'm sure that the Military Commissions Act will not be the last of the power granting.
I have to ask anyone who supports these type of measures to do this simple exercise:
- Imagine that your worst nightmare has come to pass, and the government is entirely made up of the party and politicians you hate and/or fear the most - example: think of Congress and the White House filled with Hillary and Bill Clinton clones, with some Kerry and Gore for moderation.
- Imagine that this government of people you loathe has *all* the tools now granted to the current administration -- plus future ones in the works -- for monitoring, identification, surveillance, spying on, wiretapping, arresting, detaining, "interrogating" and trying in secret undesirables and "enemy combatants".
- Imagine that this government that you loathe now considers you to be an undesirable, a terror suspect, an "enemy combatant" or otherwise anti-American.
Are you still so sure that you want to give the "government" (current and future) the authority to use these tools?
You see, you haven't just handed the good ol' boys of the Bush administration these powers, you are handing the government, in perpetuity, these powers - regardless of who is running it. If, and when, you lose your predominance, the people who you hate, and that hate you, will have the tools to make your (and your decendents) lives miserable - and you gave them to them with a cheer and a "damn straight".
Doesn't that make you feel brilliant?
Let's undo it, while there is still time for all of us to be free. Until then, you had best be sure that all of your papers are in order.
EDIT: You could end up reading stuff like this in a few years: President Clinton Jails 938,000 Illegal Enemy Combatants Isn't that what Congress has granted?
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When the Nazis came for the communists,
I remained silent;
I was not a communist.
When they locked up the social democrats,
I remained silent;
I was not a social democrat.
When they came for the trade unionists,
I did not speak out;
I was not a trade unionist.
When they came for me,
there was no one left to speak out.
The Congress of the United States passed the "Military Commissions Act of 2006"
1) authorizing detention without judicial review of persons
2) designated "enemy combatants" by the executive branch, again without judicial review or requirements for clear criteria,
3) applies a very much narrowed definition of torture, and essentially repudiates the Geneva convention,
4) eliminates accountability for past violations of laws on torture and illegal detention, and
5) the bill itself forbits judicial review of itself.
The Democrats, fearing A rethuglican smear campaign for being "soft of terror", rolled over and played dead. The republicans put aside any pretense of objection for the same reason. Now our own government is in a greater position to "legally" cause terror (extrajudicial detention, torture, extraordinary rendition, "disappearances", etc.) within this country to our own citizens than all of Al Queda combined!
When they waterboarded the detainees,
The senate said nothing,
For they were just "enemy combatants".
When they come for you and me,
The senate will still be silent,
For fear of Karl Rove's political hit squads.
This is the equivalent, in the modern era, of the first of the Nuremberg Laws. It essentially denies the humanity, and thus the rights, of anyone designated by the fickle executive to be an "enemy combatant" ('enemy of the state' is the 1930's term).
BTW, this rapes the shit out of the IVth, Vth, VIth, and VIII Amendments. Then again, the rethuglicans have shat all over the First, Fourth, and Fifth for years now. Also, they only pay lip service to the Second - the Katrina debacle showed us that.
VOTE EVERY LAST BASTARD THAT VOTED FOR THIS CRAP OUT!!!!!
I remained silent;
I was not a communist.
When they locked up the social democrats,
I remained silent;
I was not a social democrat.
When they came for the trade unionists,
I did not speak out;
I was not a trade unionist.
When they came for me,
there was no one left to speak out.
The Congress of the United States passed the "Military Commissions Act of 2006"
1) authorizing detention without judicial review of persons
2) designated "enemy combatants" by the executive branch, again without judicial review or requirements for clear criteria,
3) applies a very much narrowed definition of torture, and essentially repudiates the Geneva convention,
4) eliminates accountability for past violations of laws on torture and illegal detention, and
5) the bill itself forbits judicial review of itself.
The Democrats, fearing A rethuglican smear campaign for being "soft of terror", rolled over and played dead. The republicans put aside any pretense of objection for the same reason. Now our own government is in a greater position to "legally" cause terror (extrajudicial detention, torture, extraordinary rendition, "disappearances", etc.) within this country to our own citizens than all of Al Queda combined!
When they waterboarded the detainees,
The senate said nothing,
For they were just "enemy combatants".
When they come for you and me,
The senate will still be silent,
For fear of Karl Rove's political hit squads.
This is the equivalent, in the modern era, of the first of the Nuremberg Laws. It essentially denies the humanity, and thus the rights, of anyone designated by the fickle executive to be an "enemy combatant" ('enemy of the state' is the 1930's term).
BTW, this rapes the shit out of the IVth, Vth, VIth, and VIII Amendments. Then again, the rethuglicans have shat all over the First, Fourth, and Fifth for years now. Also, they only pay lip service to the Second - the Katrina debacle showed us that.
VOTE EVERY LAST BASTARD THAT VOTED FOR THIS CRAP OUT!!!!!
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