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([personal profile] ravan May. 31st, 2007 10:08 pm)
However, there are a few legal issues here that bug me:

1) If you suspect a crime is or has been committed, don't delete a journal, call the cops!!
2) If you accuse someone publicly of criminal behavior, but can't/don't/won't back it up with evidence and reporting it to the authorities, you could be committing libel and defamation.
3) Deleting journals and communities on the basis of keywords in interests is pretty slipshod.
4) Fiction, fantasy, or discussion of lusts and thoughts is not the same as doing them, even under the current mess of US Law. Really.
5) Isn't breaking/violating your own process as described in your ToS a breach of contract??
6) Trying to claim listed "interests" mean that a person "likes" or "advocates" them would probably get laughed out of court, IMO.
7) As I understand it, a person's content is theirs, and a hosting service is shielded by the "common carrier" provisions of the law *if* they do not exercise editorial control over it. Deleting "objectionable", but not illegal, content could be construed as exercising editorial control.

Again, IANAL, nor do I play one on TV.

I need to have defined for me what rights I have under my permanent membership contract with LJ. If they can blithely change their ToS on the fly about this stuff, what else can they do, without me having any recourse other than abandoning my journal (and money)? Will I log in one day to a page full of ads for fundie churches, my journal redacted of all content not fit for sheltered 5 year olds??
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From: [identity profile] siliconshaman.livejournal.com


I have a suggestion of what to do on my blog. We, the users, buy out the company. 10 million or so users, each contributing $25 is 250million... that'd be enough.

Hard for them to fuck it up against our wishes when we own them, literally.

From: [identity profile] ka-crow.livejournal.com


I've re-buggered my interests to include things like "sin," "pain," "depravity," "jailbait," "perversion," "bloodlust," etc. Of course, as I explain in the "bio" section, every single one of them is a BPAL perfume. I would LOVE to see them come after me for THAT.

From: [identity profile] jilara.livejournal.com


The minute I saw that list, I KNEW you were a BPAL lover! Have you heard the one about not being able to order Absinthe on PayPal because it thinks the scent is an alcoholic beverage?

From: [identity profile] ka-crow.livejournal.com


But the musk of an enraged orangutan is, for some reason, okay for members of the general public to own? You can buy a BRAIN CANISTER (one of my top ten scents, btw) without a license?

From: [identity profile] ragnar21583.livejournal.com


Hah! Thats pretty good.

I went and changed my interest to the best '4 letter, 50-character or less' phrase on how this sucks. Anything more and it wouldn't take.

I ended up with
Interests: 1: watching lj censor pathetically.

From: [identity profile] ka-crow.livejournal.com


There's always the good old "not doing anything wrong" that is a fine hobby that my father taught me to enjoy. (Shit, I sound like Hemingway.) You could have:

not doing anything wrong
being harmless
wording interests carefully
tiptoeing around censors
rewriting my profile
not talking about torture

Hell, the whole current pResidential administration is very interested in that last one.
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From: [personal profile] mdlbear


I put "censorship" and "la Marseillaise" in my interests. The latter could easily be construed as a death threat...
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From: [personal profile] mdlbear


The chorus of "La Marseillaise" (which is the national anthem of France, BTW) can be translated:

To arms citizens
Form your battalions
March, march
Let impure blood
Water our furrows

which is clearly a death threat against my enemies, right?

From: [identity profile] ragnar21583.livejournal.com


It could be-- but from the same people that just randomly suspended or deleted journals based on the surface value of thier interests...

I don't think they'd get it. :)

I don't think they'd get anything shy of "Watching LJ Burn" as an interest for that matter.

From: [identity profile] ragnar21583.livejournal.com


Good points. I thinks this whole thing is BS too. You should consider tossing some of that on panGloss (UK-based cyberlaw blog by Lilian Edwards. Specialising in online privacy and security law, cybercrime, online intermediary law).

They have something about it at:
http://blogscript.blogspot.com/2007/05/live-journal-attacked-by-inocents.html

From: [identity profile] ravenpan.livejournal.com


I've wandered over here via a link you left in a comment left to one of the recent news posts....

I too have a permanent account - if you find out anything we permanent members can do to protect ourselves, please let me know? - I won't be on par with what I've paid for for another few years yet, I think - and that just isn't fair.
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