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([personal profile] ravan Mar. 2nd, 2006 01:56 pm)
Aww, gee, I'm special! Fuckwit [livejournal.com profile] elorie has decided to refer to me by name in her little fief. That means I got to her, pricked her in the ego! I should have saved the comment for posterity! That's a better prize than having a community named after me!

Awww, and she accuses me of conflating '"debate" with "verbal abuse"'. Stupid girl. I wasn't trying "debate" with her, I don't think she has the intellect to comprehend it, much less respond to it in a rational manner. Her knee jerk stereotyping is proof of that, along with her innane "They say *all* the same things...almost word for word...and make the same specious arguments that are either blatantly untrue, make no damn sense, or BOTH." Sorry, but it's only 'the same' if you are unable to consider and comprehend things other than your own narrow, knee-jerk, point of view. So no, I was not attempting to debate with her, I was flaming her. Too bad she's too dumb to realize it.

Furthermore, she is responding to a comment that she did not allow to be seen by anyone else, thus looking even more capricious and insane. ROTFLMAO!

I was wondering if she was smart enough to cut her losses and get back to her regular community business. She's not - she won't be happy unless she thinks she's "won" by having the very last word, and can get all of what she believes are her fans to help. What a little wankette. The "neener, neener, neener" at the end is just classic wank, too.

Dang, I need to filch [livejournal.com profile] kshandra's "LOLLERSKATES" icon. May I? Pleeeeease?

BTW, I will probably still read [livejournal.com profile] note_to_asshat from time to time, as well as [livejournal.com profile] note2asshat. Some of the posts in there are great, prime snark, quintissential flambe. Why? For the same reason I read [livejournal.com profile] kittypix and [livejournal.com profile] kitty_luff_only - it makes me smile. Why should I let the fact that the moderator is immature and chickenshit bar me from reading fine snark by other people?

Note: this post left public out of fairness. Apologies to those who are tired of the wank stuff.
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Change it by finding like-minded types instead of rabid nutjobs. Then those who simply want respect for their decision to not have children can disassociate themselves from those who genuinely hate children, by creating their own damn movement. If that is, in fact, what you want.

Should Christians have to form their own new religion, by a different name, because of the intolerance of the fundamentalist wing? Or is it better to be moderating voices of sanity in the existing religion?

Until then, until you have clearly set yourself apart, the simple fact is you WILL be tarred with the same brush as the child-hating sort. And you can blame them for that as well as those who tar you.

Oh, I do blame them for that. That's why I'm not a member of [livejournal.com profile] cf_hardcore. They're out on the fringe, and a lot of them are jerks, too.

But that's the same thing that happens to whites, gays, Christians, parents and any other group: they get tarred with the same brush (stereotype) as their lunatic fringe. "rednecks", "queers", "fundies" and "moos" are all labels for these fringes.

A social difficulty, yes, a prejudice encountered on a personal level. But systemic oppression? No.

So by your estimation, bigotry and prejudice are trivial and can be ignored or mocked if they are not "systemic oppression"?

By that estimate, unless a thing is against the law, or otherwise codified in an institution, it's not *systemic* oppression, it's just "social difficulty" or "prejudice encountered on a personal level". Is this your demarcation line? So is an individual landlord discriminating against a renter on the basis of being black, perceived homosexual, or whatever just "prejudice encountered on a personal level" or is it oppression? What makes a thing "systemic"?

Also, how do you answer the fact that some social services currently are completely unavailable in some places (educational grants, food stamps, rent assistance, etc) - unless you have at least one child? Is that institutional enough?

The idea of bias being inconsequential and ignorable unless it is "systematic" and "oppression" just makes me angry. After all, one person's oppression is another person's status quo. Who decides how much is too much?
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