*Shakes Her Head*

[ravan]

OK, the Drama(tm) started on note_to_asshat has now taken a truly ridiculous turn. Some wanker started note_to_elorie. Now, it could have been a member of childfree. Some people there are that immature. Or it could have been a sock puppet of elorie herself, just to claim some sort of victory - but I doubt it - she's not that clever.

But really, giving her that much attention?? Silly.

EDIT: Oh, and in her little crowdown on note_to_asshat, she is "allowing" comments, but screening them and deleting the ones that score a zinger on her. What a chickenshit - only shit that agrees with her is allowed, in a rant community. While I can understand it in a personal journal, and fully support it there, it's rather de classe in a community. What a pathetic waste, but what I've come to expect of fluffybunnies like her.

Comments

[jemyl.livejournal.com]

I think that she was very straightforward in what she wanted for the community. Are you sure that you are not riled because she thinks, or someone who posted there thinks, that people who are childfree and don't want to encounter children should either avoid places where children are obviously welcome or suck it up?

I think that post was rather reasonable, considering. After all, it doesn't take an Einstein to realize that when a restaurant offers balloons and crayons on the table with coloring game menus or placemats that the place welcomes children and, as a corollary to that, in a place that welcomes children there will be children and occasionally one of more of them will cry or scream, particularly if their parent tells them NO. To ask that those who wish not to encounter children not patronize such restaurants is rather sane logic and deals with the natural consequences of ignoring the childfriendly ambience of an eating place.

Conversely, if one wishes to eat, play, listen to a concert, or whatever without children one must be willing to go only to those places where children are obviously either not welcome or not likely to attend due to the cost of the food or the event. I don't ever remember seeing children at a dinner seating at or after 10 pm in a restaurant where the waiters wear tuxedos and the menu prices are only on the gentlemen's copy (the Italian place on the corner in downtown San Jose is an anomolie so doesn't count) i.e. a coke is likely to cost $5 and Chateaubriand is likely to be part of the faire as well as Vichisois and Veal Piccata(sic on the spellings of these dishes as I don't get to such places often either). The same is true of concerts. One rarely finds young, misbehaving children at an evening of opera or classical music, or even most rock concerts.

That the owner(s) of a community choose to set the standards for that community on LJ such that arguments with venting posts are not allowed, then that is their perogative. The standards are set forth in the beginning. They are not much different from the standards on here, in your journal. Actually, I wouldn't have been surprised to see you as one of the moderators of the asshat community as the freedom and the requirement to not whine but be funny if possible fits very well with what I know of you~~~and one of your most redeeming traits in all situations.

Anyway, that is my opinion on that community. I have applied to join so that I can asshat away some of the jerks with ears I am running into these days of cobra and the medical community and some insensitive bitches in and around Interlachen.

FWIW, your post above is eloquent. I don't know if I agree or disagree with much of it. I do disagree with part, as explained above, on the "rights" and comments of some of the childfree community members, and notice, please, I didn't even mention the "cute" names (not) given to offspring and those who have them.

I hope you are feeling better than you did last week. Love to you and Datapard. Please let me know your new snail mail addy if and when you move. Grief is still hanging around, but each day has some ups as well as downs and I will survive it. What bothers and angers me most is when people start pushing me to do stuff. I will and I am and in my own good time. I have time. I don't have to hurry with selling anything or making any major decisions. What galls me most is those who want to know when I am going to move and oh by the way am I planning to sell x or y 'cause if I am they would like first dibs. THAT pisses me off! I will sell or give away what I want to whom I want and when I want and if I don't tell everyone or someone that it is for sale, then I want them to assume that it is not for sale so don't ask. Damned Vultures! (You would be shocked at who some of the worst ones have been. I was and it wasn't family either!) Ah well, enough. I shall likely rant on this on my own journal page one day soon. Love you and hugs to you both. (I've got Truffles! I'v actually got Lindt Truffles, two, awaiting me right now. YUMMMM)

[dreamingcrow.livejournal.com]

It's not at all wrong, in a community where the info states that she is the final arbiter. I would disagree with being in a community that is so explicit about that as hers is, most likely, but it is laid out in plain view.

For the record, while I don't have her friended anymore, I do know that she doesn't tend to be a fluffybunny. She does enjoy a good grandstand though and these people played right into her hands.

Anyways, I hate to say, but this is one more thing that leads me to childfree and cf_hardcore. I think at this point, I'm going to have to remove you from my reading list. It's not a personal judgment over you, but the fact that those places make my blood pressure rise insanely. I know you've argued, as have other people, that you and these communities are not talking about well-behaved children, etc., etc., but I can't handle the overwhelming bigotry.

I don't think it's cool to take the fact that some people are astounded/amazed/offended/pissed off that (generic) you don't want children as an excuse to turn into bigots who throw around ephitets yourself. Yeah, it's kept in that community and as long as it stays in safe spaces, well, that the person's choice. However, spreading it out elsewhere is not only going to get a major response, it's going to end up being interpreted as trolling, which it almost always is.

Calling ANY little girl, no matter how snotty, a "cuntbunny" steps so far over the line that I can't even understand someone trying to defend it. Sorry.

I've enjoyed our interactions over the years and I appreciate a lot of your viewpoints. I just can't handle the stuff about childfree-bigotry that comes up occasionally, though.

I wish you all the best.

[glossolalia.livejournal.com]

note_to_elorie was started by tigerwolf, apparently. He's a moron.