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ravan ([personal profile] ravan) wrote2005-12-11 08:43 pm
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Since when...

... does the fact that's it's a family member that I disagree with mean that I mustn't make it public?
... does the fact that I have a different religion and lifestyle mean I must be silent about it, and not object when it is attacked?
... does the fact that I am in a minority mean that I must be humble and quiet about it, while a different strident minority of a majority religion is allowed to spend milllions pushing their views into the public sphere?
... is wanting equal treatment under the law "special rights"?
... does objecting to false and ignorant assertions by someone constitute a "vicious personal attack"?

Get this: If my kinsman can blog about the "evils" of homosexuality, gay marriage, abortion, anti-war sentiment, removing "under god" from the pledge, ad nauseum, I can (and will) blog about what I find wrong with his spew, and how disappointed I am that he advocates such hurtful and mean spirited views.

I don't ask anyone to bless it. After all, he did not ask my permission to write his screeds against me and my friends. Why should I forbear in writing against it? Since when do I owe him any more (or less) courtesy and tolerance in my writings than he shows for me and mine? After all, doesn't everyone like to be labelled as mentally ill by their own kin? (Yes, he's one of those.) Would you be "tolerant" of someone who wanted to treat you like you were insane because you have a different worldview and lifestyle? I think not.

Gods, I am disappointed and disgusted. Happy holidays. My own family supports institutionalized hatred and subjugation of me and mine, and then viciously criticizes me and tries to guilt trip me for objecting. Can't you feel the love??

[identity profile] dubhain.livejournal.com 2005-12-12 04:44 am (UTC)(link)
Compassionate Conservatism at its finest.

I'm truly sorry you're related to that poster child for the Pro-Choice movement.

Who was insisting that you should sit-down and shut-up because he's family? I hope you bitch-slapped them repeatedly.

[identity profile] ladyqkat.livejournal.com 2005-12-12 05:17 am (UTC)(link)
Your life. Your blog. Your views. 'Nuff said.
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[personal profile] witchchild 2005-12-12 11:48 am (UTC)(link)
I do love the comment you left him.

[identity profile] jemyl.livejournal.com 2005-12-12 12:54 pm (UTC)(link)
No one is objecting to you personally or to your eloquent comments in your brother-in-law's blog. The personal attack on him, his family and their lifestyle on Another Ravan Perch and on lj was vicious and mean spirited. I will always object to such intolerance of another's lifestyle and religion.

Why can't you show your family the same tolerance and acceptance that we have ALWAYS shown you and yours? How long must I put forth love and acceptance of you, your views and your lifestyle to get back even an acknowledgement that I love you? You have ripped your family up one side and down the other several times on here over the past years. We don't do the same to you. The only time you have been called on your shit is this time and not by your brother-in-law or your sister. Should we sit idly by while you tear apart our family lifestyle and religious beliefs? We don't do that to you.

Your comments in your brother-in-laws blog were eloquent. Your spew on here and on Another Ravan Perch were not. What kind of belief system do you embrace that says you are to spew forth personal attacks and hatred as a way to show others the rightness of your views?

Can I feel the love? Hell no! I haven't felt it from you for the past twenty years or so. Still, I love you and think you are a terrific person, most of the time and, yes, I will continue to call you on your shit.

For the record, I support gay rights, believe that you are a spiritual being and accept you as being a valuable person, not insane, and in love with a same sex partner. Oh, so does the rest of the family, by the way.

[identity profile] redsonja.livejournal.com 2005-12-12 02:39 pm (UTC)(link)
You're an adult. You're sane, intelligent, productive, abide by the law, and left to your own belief and value system you are generally happy.

That isn't good enough for some people? That really is their problem.

The sheer level of hypocrisy is stunning. It's like they're doing you a favor by "tolerating your difference", but you are not allowed to even feel angry and hurt about being treated like some sort of a mentally deficient freak in the name of "love".

"Love" like this is like candy coating on a road apple. It's still a road apple.

Rock on, girl. You do have friends who understand.
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[personal profile] weofodthignen 2005-12-13 01:49 am (UTC)(link)
Sigh.

Go, and show them. I haven't read your BiL's blog, but it will be harder for him to tell himself gays, liberals, and non-Xians are somehow not real humans after you and [livejournal.com profile] datapard show up and patently are. Besides, as I said before, you have the right.

And I hope you both manage to have a good time--and your mom and your sister too.

And of course--here comes the guilt from this clergyperson--the more sane, reasonable, and obviously good gay, liberal, and non-Xian people your cousins meet during their formative years, the better for them as people.

M

*hugs*

[identity profile] ertla.livejournal.com 2005-12-13 09:29 pm (UTC)(link)
Nulli illegitimi carborundum - or however that bit of latin is correctly spelled.

When I find myself putting up with behavior in others which is not accepted from me I generally increase the distance in those relationships. If there's a third party involved, trying to make me accept someone else's quirks, then that gives me two choices for which relationship may need an increase in distance. If the third party is demanding that I neither distance myself from the second party nor behave similarly myself, then the third party becomes the prime candidate for increased distance.